Talk:The Presidents Act, 659

Braughn F. G. Kryos OP

— 10/21/2023 8:57 PM

Tabled by Jonn Stevens, DPPK, as an independent member's bill. A act to establish a line of succession for the office of President of the Assembly. https://kodiak.wiki/wiki/The_Presidents_Act,_659 Voting is set for 31 October 2023. The Kodiak Republic Wiki The Presidents Act, 659 A act to establish a line of succession for the office of president of the assembly. Braughn F. G. Kryos OP

— 10/21/2023 9:01 PM

@Assembly Members, this bill is now open for debate. Daniel Anderson — 10/22/2023 12:04 AM Are Assembly members with no executive role allowed to be clerks of the Assembly? And also, will there be an elected clerk if the existing clerk becomes the president? W Magnus Ward [NUP] — 10/22/2023 12:06 AM I wonder why the author has chosen Clerk instead of the existing convetion of Deputy President Dr E.C. Maltravers Jr [NUP] — 10/22/2023 3:51 AM I have no issues with this bill proposed, personally. W Magnus Ward [NUP] — 10/22/2023 3:55 AM I don't personally see a need for this item. The President may already appoint a Deputy in times they see necessary. I don't see the problem this is meant to solve Charlotte Groves (Juliette)[KWP] — 10/22/2023 8:16 AM This also creates a role that as written is legislated to have no direct responsibilities despite needing to be appointed and approved. Just sitting and waiting for the 'maybe' situation where they become President. If this assembly needed to vote on an appointed role, then the role in my opinion should have some immediate usefulness.

In the past the President appointed a deputy when they felt the need, this is a precedence that has been set a long time ago. If the concern is that there should be a 'vote', why not simply just elect a new President assuming there is plenty of time left in a term? Granted, if there is little time in a term it would seem a waste to elect someone for a week or so. In which case a deputy is fine. Braughn F. G. Kryos OP

— 10/22/2023 8:43 AM

I have changed my perspective since the election of 557, wherein I mentioned that I would not be opposed to the appointment of a Clerk of the Assembly to succeed the President in the case of inability to serve. However, I agree with Mr. Ward and Ms. Groves in seeing no need for this particular piece of legislation. If the Assembly sees fit to appoint a Clerk in the case that the President is unable to fulfill their duties or if the President would like to appoint a Clerk if they know they will be out of commission for some pre-determined reason, that is well within their abilities. I would not see that as a particular issue. Braughn F. G. Kryos OP

— 10/22/2023 9:44 AM

((As a side note, I have edited the legislation for grammar and style)) Braughn F. G. Kryos OP

— 10/23/2023 9:26 PM

Would the author like to comment, @Jonn Stevens (DPPK)? Braughn F. G. Kryos OP

— 10/26/2023 10:54 PM

@Assembly Member, I would like additional comments before this bill heads to a vote in a few days. I’m would also like the author, @Jonn Stevens (DPPK), to make some comment. Flip Yorick [NUP] — 10/27/2023 6:33 AM Broadly, I share a mind with those others who have questioned the need for such a position. I am reserving further comment until @Jonn Stevens (DPPK) argues their case for this Act. Braughn F. G. Kryos OP

— 10/31/2023 9:15 AM

Since the Assembly clearly has no interest in further debating this bill, it will go to vote as scheduled shortly. EasyPoll BOT

— 10/31/2023 6:00 PM

Question Does the General Assembly approve of the Presidents Acts, 659?

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— 10/31/2023 6:00 PM

@Assembly Member, voting for this bill is now open and will remain open for 72 hours. Braughn F. G. Kryos OP

— 11/3/2023 at 7:29 AM

@Assembly Member, less than 12 hours left to vote on this bill. Braughn F. G. Kryos OP

— 11/4/2023 at 11:07 AM

With 8 ayes, 11 nays, and 2 abstains, the Presidents Act, 659 is rejected by the General Assembly of Kodiak. This debate will be archived shortly.