Talk:Resolution for No-Confidence Vote on the Chancellorship and his Government

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Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 03/05/2024 05:06

Tabled by Tobias Virsturm, MGA, as an independent resolution. A resolution for a motion of no-confidence vote on the Chancellorship and the Government Cabinet controlled by the National United Party. Vote will be May 5th. Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 03/05/2024 05:07

@Tobias Virstürm (DPPK) could you post the document, ((I’ll move it over to the wiki once I am home)) You have the floor Mr. Virsturm @Assembly Member the debate is open J.F. Sassoon — 03/05/2024 05:23 The Chancellor has gone, why do further damage? He was very clearly distributed and unable to do his duties, with him now gone I do not see why the whole government must be uprooted during a critical time. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 03/05/2024 05:30 This motion is not against Chancellor Maltravers, but against the current Chancellor. Yes, Mr. Maltravers is gone, but the lack of faith in the government continues, increased, not lessened. We seek to ensure that the government is the one best qualified. The Deputy Chancellor was not elected to be the executive, especially in this time of war. The coalition under which he was approved has fallen apart. The government still does not have the confidence of the Assembly. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 03/05/2024 11:20 This bill requires an official message from the KWP and myself.

This Assembly is meant to represent the needs of the nation and act accordingly. In order to better serve the needs of the people of this nation, a government must be formed. This government is entrusted with this power by the Assembly. In return, however, the government must hold to the following three virtues:

Humility should rule the actions of the government. It should realize that it is commissioned by the people, for the people. It must conform its policies and needs to the people of the nation, citizens all, regardless of how much or how little those citizens like, agree with, or conform to the government. The government under the NUP, this government of former Chancellor Maltravers, has utterly failed to act with any humility. They have stood up, not for the rights of their citizens, but rather for their own power. They have trampled on the pride of our citizenry, not only by encouraging the use of unnecessary violence against civilian actors, but by encouraging inept and incapable military commanders to throw waves of our young men and women at the enemy, as if that would solve the issue. This government has no humility. Integrity must underpin every motion and every act. A government must realize that, without the trust of the people and Assembly they serve, they are nothing. They must have strong principles and act in a way becoming of a government. They must be incorruptable in every way, standing for the rights and protection of the people they swore to serve. This government has openly taken advantage of the power given them, abused their authority, and pointed fingers at other people to take the blame. They have stood before the Assembly and decried the actions of members of this Assembly, including members of their own coalition, as disloyal. They have acted in a way so hypocritical as to boggle the mind and induce whiplash in any onlooker. They condem rioters in the streets, and yet mass-deputize a mob of nationalist thugs. They express anger and spout about tyranny when a disruptive member of their party is silenced, but support and facilitate an act that would bring the end of free speech in this Assembly. They cry for blood when one of their own is punished for real actions, but think it reasonable to specifically target the unkown deeds of their opposition. This government has no integrity. Justice, king of the governmental virtues, requires a government to set aside wants and feelings for the rule of social law. No matter how much they may disagree with a person, a body, or another nation, they must act with justice and foresight. The people of our Republic must be treated with fairness, equity, and respect. Each person, regardless of their crimes, regardless of their actions, must be reasonably afforded the rights they have been promised. Instead of providing justice, the government has decided that it will play vigilante, sending out glorified brownshirts to do their dirty work. The government has decided that it will ignore the rights of their own citizens, persons in their care, because of their simple association. They have denied that anyone who slightly disagrees with their extremist policies can only be against them, can only be traitors to the state. In short, this government has no justice.

A government without these three virtues has no right to exist in a free society like ours. I call all members of this body, regardless of party, regardless of ideology, regardless of stance, to take a hard and serious look at the actions of this government and its relationship to these virtues. If any memvber cannot, with a good concience, say, "this government defends these virtues", then they must needs have no choice but to support this motion. As for myself, I cannot say that this is so. As for the KWP, we cannot say that this is so. I call all to join us in this stance. Tobias Virstürm (DPPK) — 03/05/2024 11:40 Attachment file type: acrobat Motion_of_No_Confidence.pdf 53.09 KB Tobias Virstürm (DPPK) — 03/05/2024 11:58 I agree with all the points that Mr. Kryos has mentioned above, and in order to not detract any attention from his points I will be brief in my own explanation of the motion.

Not so long ago our Republic found itself poised against a common cause, defense of the nation we all know and love. People of all stretches of life, all regions, all cities, all towns, all creeds. Now all that I see is divisiveness, chaos, hatred, spite and suspicion towards fellow Kodiakers.

While our assembly has been arguing, over mundane issues, we have citizens dying or wounded in the streets of our once great cities. There has been no real efforts towards a common goal, a solution to peace. How did we become so complacent? There has been enough blood spilled in Kodiak.

And thus, the issue. What has been done besides acts of aggression or investigations into the members of a body and a nation we have all sworn to support? What has our current government done for the people? What has our current government done to achieve a quick peace? What has our current government done besides label people as traitors?

I ask you, what has our current government done? When presented with the question, you are immediately attacked. I ask you again, what is the common denominator? R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 03/05/2024 18:25 The member has made considerable effort to undermine the efforts of our government. Not once—again, not once—has the member even dreamed of the idea that ideology perhaps isn't the route to success. He has even less so considered that he may not be the arbiter of his three virtues. The epitome of virtue signalling. Without even a hint of shame, he attempts to claim our government lacks humility, while being the loudest, least considered individual in this place. We empower citizens who request help to defend their homes and their homeland; we recognise their right to self-defence, yet he sees this as "not standing up for their rights".

The individual attempts to make us look as though we lack integrity. Yet, we have been the most consistent of all parties present. The Democratic Progressives have betrayed their alliance with us, betrayed their agreements with us, and betrayed their position as president by placing a voting period five weeks in the future—a move unheard of before. And on the single occasion we admit a mistake in policy and reverse course to accept a position they requested (that we support local militia), suddenly they see it as hypocritical? This is what boggles the mind. That in claiming integrity for themselves, we show the integrity and ability to change our mind and own a mistake, they have the gall to pretend it somehow proves the opposite.

Then they come here to pretend that somehow undermining the will of the people, the alliance they signed up for, the police—which I remind resulted directly in the loss of central Graz—and undermining our military with disparaging remarks about their leadership in public, is somehow justice. That a government that has, to the letter, supported our civil institutions, our police, our military, and supported its citizens when they requested a way to defend themselves without joining the military. Somehow, through all of this backstabbing and machinations, they claim justice.

If it weren't so dangerous, and if it weren't the lives of our citizens at stake, it would be hilarious. But no, it isn't hilarious. The members here present should be ashamed of themselves. They look at circumstances they have created and somehow claim moral superiority; they should be ashamed. Here we find ourselves standing at the precipice of success—the reclamation of the north essentially complete—and their answer to this success is to throw out the very government that got us here.

I make one additional note: this resolution begins with a claim that by supporting our citizens to build a militia of their own at their own request, this is somehow an indictment, yet with no sense of irony, does not condemn Braughn Kryos for the same crime—as it was his idea!

This is a farce and an embarrassment which, regretfully, must exist within our history books for time immemorial. And let it be known that the government that won this war is the one that must wear the blame for the crimes of those here present, signing their name to their own treachery. This tragedy is nearly Shakespearean. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 03/05/2024 18:34 Braughn F. G. Kryos — 03/05/2024 20:38 Aside from his bombastic attempt the personally attack me, the arguments stand. We do not seek to undermine the efforts of the government; we are trying to replace it. The governments efforts have led to deaths, have led to greater damage to this nation, and have ended the longstanding trust between the people and their central authority. You claim that, because I have personally changed my mind when I saw how bloody and violent a group of untrained, indisciplined citizens can be, I am somehow responsible for the governments sponsorship of what amounts to nationalistic paramilitaries sponsored by the government. Yet I did not push the government to do this; in fact, had I realized how far the government would take it, I would never have encouraged any such notion. If we want to point fingers, the government itself went from “militias are bad, leave it to the military” to “let’s arm this nationalist mob”. I do not condemn this change of policy, only the result that followed.

In short, if Mr. Welch wishes to point fingers and say “you supported militias, so it’s your fault”, he must realize that I changed my mind only after the government changed theirs. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 03/05/2024 20:39 "if Mr. Welch wishes to point fingers and say “you supported militias, so it’s your fault”, he must realize that I changed my mind only after the government changed theirs." Could you be any more transparent Braughn F. G. Kryos — 03/05/2024 20:40 Ah, yes. It’s so unreasonable for a person to see an idea they saw once applied positively become so perverted and corrupt and change their mind on its value. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 03/05/2024 20:40 literally - exactly do you even hear yourself unbelievable Braughn F. G. Kryos — 03/05/2024 20:42 If Mr. Welch would like to continue attacking me personally rather than arguing the bill, he may. The Assembly knows that he will continue to attack me personally because he knows, deep down, that the bill itself is right. This government has failed, move out of the way. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 03/05/2024 20:42 I mean, there's literally 500 words speaking specifically on the points raised and the bill itself but don't let reality get in the way Braughn F. G. Kryos — 03/05/2024 20:52 I shan’t. When nine words of ten specifically attempt to undermine my person rather than reasonably respond the legitimate concerns of the supporters, it becomes difficult to find any reason to listen. I would suggest following the acting Chancellor’s example and stop this, as he terms it, inaction. María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 03/05/2024 20:56 It is surprising that your ego stops you from seeing that all the paragraphs respond to the constant attacks from the Opposition in general. It is not only about you Mr. Kryos, perhaps you should read things twice before getting to such absurd conclusions. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 03/05/2024 20:58 It’s not about me, no. So if the members from the NUP would kindly keep my person out of their arguments, we could get somewhere for once. María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 03/05/2024 20:58 But of course, if you so wholeheartedly support and sometimes even lead the most dangerous and treacherous of opinions against the government, the republic and the citizenry, it may seem slightly reasonable. Maybe that's something you should change. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 03/05/2024 20:59 The government, madam, is not the republic or the citizenry. It is the servant of such. This is the fundamental issue with the current government: it thinks itself master. María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 03/05/2024 20:59 That would be impossible due to your ramblings. María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 03/05/2024 21:01 Who is currently leading and supervising each and every move in order to end the Commune? We do not think ourselves masters of everyone, we see the government as a necessary body to end this conflict, and if it weren't for this ideological madness and crusade against the government over the most absurd of things, this would've ended. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 03/05/2024 21:03 What is it you consider “the most absurd of things”? The rights of the people? The murder of dozens without cause? The constant attempts to attack loyal citizens because they disagree with the government? This government thinks that it’s election denotes absolute power. They think that, because someone disagrees with their policies, that someone is a traitor. That is the definition of thinking oneself master. Again, members, it’s like I don’t even need to make an argument. The current government proves me without me saying a word! Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:22

Gavels for attention I am now here. I stand here today in strong support of this resolution! Considering my party and the KWP are the presenting it.

Here is something to think about. When Chancellor Maltravers was in office, I called out the government multiple times, asking what the plan was on finishing the war? Did they have a strategy in the South, did they have a strategy in the North. I even laid out my own strategies but of course it was on deaf ears. The one person in charge of the Defense ministry who was a big part of orchestrating plans for the military, has been absent for the most part. And now he is the new Chancellor. Can we trust that Mr. Hurst can lead this government with how inactive towards the war he is? We need a government who will focus on finishing the war and begin reconstruction of the affected regions. We need a new government who will not force more Kodiakians to die in the Commune meat grinder or a government who is more focused on the tax cuts for the Corporations than actually finishing this war. A DPPK and KWP joint government will end this war and begin a peaceful reconstruction of the affected regions. We have already drawn up plans for reconstruction and are ready to finish this war once we get the stalling NUP out of power. It is time for a change. Let us lead this government for the rest of the term. Let us get Kodiak back to where it should be. Let us bring peace. Let us end this damn war. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:25 I just want to note - I'm the treasurer. I wrote a bill about taxes. Its not rocket science. I find the refusal to mention the increase in car taxes and land taxes disingenuous as well I would classify this, and much of the oppositions positions, as myopy. complete blind of the forest for the concentration on the trees. When they fight to cow the police, they claim victory. When the police do as they ask and lose half of graz - they claim victory. when the soldiers come home and need jobs, they say tax cuts for business is a bad idea - but also want to complain that we did anything at all I urge the KWP to consider what beast they are trying to feed. They've renegged on their agreements with us what's to stop them from doing the same to you Our parties may disagree on policy - sure - but be very prepared for the world you're trying to create here. That the DPPK acts as kingmaker without any requirement they be trustworthy. Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:32

Are you seriously trying to sabotage our relationship with KWP in public debate? What are a dirty move. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:33 your actions are your actions. Own them and don't pass it off on me María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:33 It seems you forgot who broke up the coalition? Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:34

I am not going to reopen a closed wound on my side. DPPK moved on after being treated poorly in cabinet and in these halls. Let’s get back on the topic at hand. Felix Hurst [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:36 I would like to say that as Minister of Defence, the idea that I was pulling the strings is ridiculous. I have no proper control over the military's operations. Falkenridge is the one who coordinates the work on the ground. And admittedly, I was at times dormant. But now I promise - no - guarantee a swift end to the war. Why else would I be so confident as to say it'll be over by Christmas? Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:37

I’d love for the current government to give me a strong plan for the ending of this war? María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:37 "Poorly treated" after admitting to actively work against the govwernment while in cabinet... Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:38

What are your plans? Is Falkenridge going to do anything more? Are we just going to hope the Kodiak National Front can continue to take over the north and hope they don’t turn? R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:38 The north has, for the most part, been pacified of organised resistance only disorganised pockets remain don't you read the news? Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:39

I don’t believe we worked against the government during cabinet. Both of the former DPPK ministers were writing and proposing meaningful bills. Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:40

I do read the news. I don’t see much of any progress in the South though where the most important fight is at. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:41 well not every attack has to be a success for us to be winning the war. No one claimed the battle of the bulge was 'signs FDR was losing control' Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:42

I’ve seen mainly stalemates during the course of this term. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:43 its only been a year last year we won back crystal city and mollyrood defended kavergraithe and karputska Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:45

But is there an END in sight Mr. Welch? I’d rather the Chancellor speak, since he may give me a better answer I want a plan for the end of the war. I want reconstruction plans right now. Where is it at? When will the war end NUP? J.F. Sassoon — 04/05/2024 00:47 War does not end in a day, any soldier can tell you that. It takes time. It could be years, even decades. That is the harsh reality of it. If we push soldiers too much and expect more than they can give, it could be catastrophic. Yes we can shout "give us an end," but it can only happen if we have confidence in the army and let them do their duty. Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:49

@Assembly Member If the NUP is voted out and you let the DPPK and KWP take over. We will end the war before the end of the year. Before half of this year has even passed. We will begin reconstruction and bring back a peaceful Kodiak. That’s all I will say. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:50 anyone else feel dirty the President saying that? María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:51 The same party who complains about using civilian militias, who've proven to be effective against dangerous forces?

The same party who believes we should only use non-lethal means when facing the Commune and its terrorists? All you will do is cow the armed and law forces of the nation, then throw them under the bus and expect them to die without not much more than a rusty old rifle against a possibly foreign-supplied terrorist force. Your comments are despicable. Mr. Fala already made me lose hope on your party, but your comments finally killed any hope of the NUP working with you lot. Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:54

I’d love for you to send the KNF down to the south. Take away our military and let them fight the Commune main forces. Tell me, could they survive Maria? R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:54 why would we do that we can approve of the work they've done without being stupid about it María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:54 What is the reasoning behind that comment? R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:55 the KNF is made of our citizens. We aren't going to just throw them into a meat grinder María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:55 They've proven they can fight small armies of the commune. They've mostly ended the communist forces in Graz. What are you trying to say? Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:57

But do you think they can face the main commune forces in the south? If you think they can face dangerous forces, please let me see what they can do in the south. María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:57 Do you think the forces in Graz were armed with water guns to not consider them dangerous? Felix Hurst [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:58 In terms of Wintercrest, we will use your favourite method of dispute resolution: words (shocking right?). There will be trials for the traitors and war criminals such as Barber and Crane. And I hope to get a massive infrastructure bill through to rebuild what was destroyed. Oh and utter rubbish about the KNF. What do you mean by 'hope they don't turn'? A group of ardent patriots turning on... the people they literally fight and die for? Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:58

But they weren’t as strong as the Commune Forces that took my friend and killed him. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:58 this makes no sense - why would the government send a citizens militia to an active military front. They were organised specifically to aid police in collpasing the rebellion in graz. They succeeded Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:59

But you’re going to conscript 50,000 more citizens to die in the meat grinder? R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:59 conscripts get months of training and professional military commanders conscripts are soldiers Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 00:59

Then why aren’t these KNF forces not getting the same R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 00:59 becuase they're middle aged farmers and the like a 45 year old farmer with a hunting rifle is not the same as a 20 year old with an assault rifle Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 01:00

ALSO let’s just point out, “months of training” it’s going to take MONTHS before these new soldiers are ready which means MONTHS more of this war before we even see an ending. That sounds great for the people of Kodiak María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:00 Does it mean they aren't useful in the attempts to end the Commune? That they can't contribute in any way? Absurd, simply absurd. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:00 Point of order Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 01:01

What’s your point of order? Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 01:01

Yeah against the smallest of forces in the North which by the way we have also seen strong casualties to their own forces R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:01 the president is off topic - we are not debating a bill about conscription. This is about the confidence of the executive. The conscription bill is an emergency measure for now and the future. it is not some sort of magic one-dose pill to fix the war. We as a government have to govern for the future as well. Not just today. you cannot claim we are both not doing enough, but then also doing things you don't like. pick. one. Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 01:03

Ok ok. The executive is sponsoring a bill that is about conscription. The executive in question is wanting to conscript more citizens to be killed in the meat grinder than actually come to the table to end a war. María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:03 I suggest the President just admits this is an attempt at powergrabbing out of his own greed. If you want to end this war, you'd want to work together, not block everything in the Assembly. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:03 that's patently wrong. we are not conscripting them "to be killied in the meat grinder" we are legislating the option to conscript and train further soldiers in case they are needed Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 01:04

When we tried to work together, the NUP pushed us out without a chance. María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:04 Excuse me? R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:04 we have no need to come to the table. The communists are on the edge of defeat María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:05 You yourselves did that Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 01:05

Where? In the North maybe but I don’t see any progress in the South R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:06 sorry Liam, looks like Williams wants to give Crystal City back Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 01:06

That’s what you think but that’s not what I want at all. How about you stay on topic Mr. Welch before I call you out of order. All I want is a government who will actively focus on the war and have actual plans for its end and reconstruction of the country. This NUP government will not do that R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:08 "i want plans for reconstruction" Government passes laws to increase company resilience in a time of economic turmoil "no, that's bad :(:(" make up your mind man María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:09 What table? They don't want that. You also don't want that. You've said you wished for a campaign in the south, or did you suddenly change your mind now that you're actively campaigning for Chancellor? Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 01:13

I am President of this assembly, I am focused on serving my people here, not the Chancellorship. How about you stay on topic. We are discussing the no-confidence vote. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:13 So you do want us to attack the south? María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:14 I literally responded to your off-topic comment, yet you blame me of not being on-topic? We're talking about the war since you want to know what the government will do about it to see if you'd support it Don't you want us to answer that? Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 01:15

It seems all the government has been doing is dancing around the topic. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:16 María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 01:16 Refer to my comment above surrounding that. Tobias Virstürm (DPPK) — 04/05/2024 02:12 I wish to sidebar quickly and mention that if the NUP now acts alone and was not voted in as such. There have been no "reneged" deals when the executive itself removed members of the party that coaligned to get them into power in the first place. Tobias Virstürm (DPPK) — 04/05/2024 02:21 I am willing to work with NUP members, or others if they can introduce meaningful legislation, as shown with my support of the Welch Tax Reform. However, I have seen no effort of accountability or acts of cooperation from members of the NUP to once address any concerns of the other members of this assembly without name labeling or branding. A. Jacob Sanford (NUP) — 04/05/2024 02:59 You coaligned and then betrayed us. Your party openly challenged our policy in the assembly. Of course, you're more than free to do that, but if you wished to remain in the coalition I'm afraid you should have done it behind closed doors. There is a cabinet room for a reason. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 02:59 And that is the core of the issue. The government must cooperate, even with the people they disagree with, to accomplish the kind of big things we need to in order to end the war. We cannot cooperate with people who call us traitors and disloyal. “Betrayed” is a bit dramatic, no? The DPPK had been open about their desire to end the war and end it quickly. If the NUP didn’t like that, they shouldn’t have coalitioned. They did anyway and then, as soon as they were in power, took the earliest opportunity to pull apart the coalition that got them in power. Tobias Virstürm (DPPK) — 04/05/2024 03:03 Ah yes the, "great betrayers" funny coming from the party that we aligned with for 3 terms and had no quarrel. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 03:03 I am incredibly hesitant to blame the DPPK for the collapse of the coalition. The NUP government dismissed their officers and ensured the death of the coalition was permanent rather than seeking cooperation. The government now is essentially operating under false pretenses. They have lost the coalition with the DPPK and therefore should be removed. This is perfectly reasonable for a parliamentary system like ours. The failures of the government are just icing on the cake. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:16 Williams may have neglected to tell you, but our parties had an agreement that he would pull the investigation into the KNF if I pulled the investigation into aiding the commune by Assembly Members. This was fully agreed to. He then deliberately refused to fulfil his end of the bargain and lost anyway. Which is of course, hilarious and just, but I believe indicative of future behaviour. Where opportunities to reduce tension in this house present, the DPPK has so far chosen to escalate. While in the past the DPPK may have felt a need to operate honestly, this has changed. With the collapse of the KWP they now see an opportunity to be a major party. And of the three parties in this place, one refuses to do anything, one refuses to follow their own agreements, and one has been transparent from the first.

I'll let the independents decide who is which - just as they did in voting down the investigation into the KNF. Just as this house overwhelmingly passed my tax reforms which the DPPK and KWP continue to deride. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 11:21 Given that the NUP government dismissed their ministers from office, I feel as though the DPPK has and had every right to consider the "agreement" between the parties of the coalition invalid. If Mr. Welch wishes to point at Mr. Williams and whine about breaking faith, I'm curious to see when he will point the same finger at former Chancellor Maltravers for the same fault. I just find it incongruous to attack the members of the opposition for faults which his own government has made while discussing the recall of the very government in question. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:22 And again, we conveniently neglect to remember that the former Chancellor did not "dismiss their ministers". He dismissed one minister who was actively undermining government policy after being requeted to bring it to cabinet instead of acting like a maverick. So at least get your stories straight before you make one up. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 11:23 The minsiter called for an end to the war and an end quickly. Is this not the government's policy? R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:25 He was not fired for that - and in fact going back over the notes - he was fired for writing an amicus brief against the KNF without clearing it with the Chancellor while his bill to investigate them continued in the assembly so again lets get the records straight instead of making it up Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 11:26 If Mr. Welch could forward those notes to the members present, that would be appreciated. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:27 I cannot break the notes of the cabinet in particular, but I can refer to the public instance which to which the cabinet referred the link directed by the chancellor in cabinet when requesting him not to continue is this link ⁠🎓|chief-justice⁠ then, as expected, a bunch of grand-standing and the chancellor fired him Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 11:28 If Mr. Welch cannot actually confirm the reason for which Mr. Fala was dismissed without much explanation to the Assembly, I'm not sure that's really "setting the records straight", that's hearsay. Quite literally your word against his. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:29 the @Assembly President can see for himself ⁠No Access Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 11:30

About what? Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 11:30 I understand that Mr. Welch, nor any other minister, can break the seal of the Chancellor's chambers during a meeting, but, given the situation where "I want an end to the war and now, by whatever means possible" then, more or less immediately, the speaker is dismissed, it is hard to believe that the two are not connected. Setting aside the issue of whether or not it was reasonable for the DPPK to end their coalition with the NUP-led government, it is a reasonable practice in parliamentary governments worldwide to question the legitimacy and parliamentary support. This is not unreasonable to expect. If the government continues to have the support of the Assembly, which I suspect it does not, then the NUP has nothing to fear and can continue pursuing policy as they wish. If, however, the NUP does not have the support of the Assembly, then they should step aside and allow a government with the support of the Assembly to actually finish the job. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:31 You can see the timing from the link to the notice of amicus brief, to firing was 20-30 minutes Image Image the reason is clear and direct Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 11:35

But the investigation was a good idea. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:36 That's beside the point - it is not unexpected that when a maverick minister of another party decided to undermine the chancellor's policy would be unwelcome in his cabinet and that is true of any party. especially when faced with that specific ultimatum Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 11:42 Whatever the case surrounding Mr. Fala's dismissal, the final decision to dismiss him came from the Chancellor. Whether or not the Chancellor did so reasonably is not necessarily up to debate. The fact is that the Chancellor dismissed a member of the DPPK that had been part of the coalition deal. Given the speed with which Mr. Fala was replaced with an NUP member, I doubt that the Chancellor wished to consider the actions of Mr. Fala rouge enough to dismiss it as one man, not the entire party.

All that to say, we can stop acting as if the DPPK was irrational in feeling that the coalition had been ended. No one argues that it was not the right of the Chancellor to dismiss Mr. Fala for going against the government's policy of supporting an armed mob of nationalists. What we argue now is that the government, having lost the support of the coalition which saw their election, is now illegitimate and should be replaced with a legitimate government. On top of that, the government has clearly displayed an unwillingness to do whatever it takes to end this war. They would rather see it prolonged, more soldiers and young men killed, rather than negotiate with the enemy. The level of hubris displayed is incredibly dangerous. The presenters of this bill believe that this is grounds enough for the dismissal of the government and the election of a new one. The legitimacy, or the lack thereof, rather, of the government is a strong contributor, but not the whole reason for this resolution. They speak of having a nation to come back to with their tax reforms and their resolutions against ideologies, yet they are actively seeking to continue the war when peace could be achieved now. The sons and daughters of this nation could be spared, and yet, here we are, another year of war. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:51 yet they are actively seeking to continue the war when peace could be achieved now.

The frequency that this subject continues to arise leads me to believe there is some sort of collaboration with the enemy going on here. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 11:51 To put it in terms that they more willingly understand, the government would rather spend millions of florins, possibly billions, millions of taxpayer's money, to continue fighting the Commune, to continue destroying property, coporations, workers, costing billions more in damages to these businesses and taxpayers, rather than come to the table and talk for a few days. When was the last time the government asked what terms the Commune wished to have guarenteed in a peace negotiation? When was the last time negotiations were even considered? Does anyone in the government even know what the Commune wants in return for surrender? R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:54 Perhaps the collaborator can enlighen us? Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 11:55 Dodging the question, I see. I will assume no, then. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:55 something is fishy about this line of questioning and I'll spell it out - I believe that Mr. Kryos or someone Mr. Kryos is in contact with has been collaborating with the Commune Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 11:56 Cool, accuse all you like. But that does not answer the question. It is highly concerning that a question about the government's extent of knowledge results in such backlash. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:57 The government has no intention of ending the war prior to victory - we do not see empowering remaining rebels as a path to long term stability María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:57 It does raise a different question surrounding your passiveness towards the Commune. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:57 we will win in the south. we will end the rebellion. we will demonstrate the strength of the republic María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:57 Giving concessions to criminals is not going to give us a brighter future than if we squash them militarily R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:57 and we won't cow to compromise with people who are dead set upon its destruction Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 11:58 Do you even know that? Or do you, as with many other things, simply assume? R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 11:58 The commune can lay down their arms today if they want peace today we did not begin this war but unless they surrender, we will end it on our terms Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 11:58 Even if that means a million dead soliders? How about two? The government seems awfully ready to sacrifice the lives of their citizens rather than potentially end the war with a few minor concessions. So much so they dismiss the possibilty out of hand. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 12:00 we don't even have a million soldiers your hysteria is embarrassing Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 12:00 I am allowed some minor hyperbole for the sake of illustration. María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 12:00 Says the assembly member who suggested fighting armed terrorists with rubber bullets And thought lethal action from law enforcement against communists was "a violation of civil rights" R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 12:01 Mr. "lost Graz" is not embarassed by his positions Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 12:02 Where exactly does the government draw the line? When does the war become too costly? When have enough people died to force the government to consider that maybe, just maybe, total annihiliation is not the best course of action? R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 12:02 anything short of full surrender is simply planting the seeds for future rebellion we have to think of more than today - we have to think of the next generations María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 12:02 The fearmongering you push to convince the people that the Commune is an unstoppable force and only mutual destruction is the outcome sure does well to protect rhem. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 12:03 I am not saying a partial surrender is what I want. The Commune must surrender in full; there can be no Commune when this war is over. María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 12:04 Then I do not see them surrendering. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 12:04 So, yes, the government simply assumes. María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 12:04 They voluntarily made it so that they lost anything they could care for, except their life, and they have put it at risk for an ideology R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 12:05 here we go again with the really suspicious statements María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 12:05 If you believe there's any possible convincing to be done, you're too gullible for the real world Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 12:05 They know nothing of what the Commune might ask for in return for surrender, they do not consider it possible despite not having any evidence to suppor such a consideration, and will not even take the time to answer the questions posed without throwing the "oh, must be a traitor" around. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 12:06 If Mr. Welch wishes to insinuate that I have some special knowledge gained from collaboration with the people that blew me up, he may do so. I, however, am capable of thinking outside the box, unlike the government. I find it incredibly unlikely that I could get within ten yards of a Commune supporter and make it out alive, given how vocal about their necessary destruction I have been. Setting aside the ad homenim attacks made in some attempt to discredit the actual questions I have asked, the government has no plans to end this war outside of seeing every last inch of the Commune-held lands bombed, burned, shot, and bled on. They promise that the war will end by Christmas, and yet dismiss the idea that such an end might need to come through peace rather than bullets. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 12:08 So you are willing to claim right now you have no communication with the commune or anyone directly in communication with the commune Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 12:09 As this is not the appropriate location for the answer to that question, I will move it to the lobby. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 04/05/2024 12:11 María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 12:13 You called us hypocritical over thinking outside the box - and correctly so - over accepting the KNF for the fight against the Commune. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 12:14 I would respond, but I have no idea what the member is trying to communicate. María Sanz-Cortés [NUP] — 04/05/2024 12:16 You keep rambling and making offtopic points to discredit those against you each time you debate, yet you preach to be the embodiment of perfection but whenever you accuse someone of doing something you see as bad, turns out you actually did it before. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 04/05/2024 12:18 sigh I really do grow tired of these pointless personal attacks. If the NUP wishes to make them, make them somewhere appropriate. The actions of the government are under scrutiny here, not Braughn Kryos. If we could keep on that topic, I'm sure the Assembly would greatly appreciate it. Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 04/05/2024 20:42

@Assembly Member 24 hours before the vote. Just a reminder. Braughn F. G. Kryos — 05/05/2024 06:52 I will make a final plea for the members of this Assembly.

The government has failed to end the war, the government has failed to protect the citizens of the nation, and the government has supported increasingly totalitarian and anti-democratic policies. It is time for a new government to form and put forward a new plan to end the war now and save what is left of this country for the future. Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 05/05/2024 21:48

@Assembly Member vote will begin in 2 hours. Does anyone want to speak before we begin the vote? R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 05/05/2024 21:54 Our government has clawed back Sjokolade from the rebels, accepted citizen assistance to recover Graz after the failure of this assembly to support police after the Astroberg riot - we've passed tax reform, police reform, military reform; we've worked to build both victory today and strength tomorrow. I ask that our members recognise what is happening here. We stand on the cliffs' edge of victory where only one pocket of resistance remains. Do not reward these political machinations. Whatever malice you had towards Dr Maltravers: he's gone. Resigned from the Assembly. Remember that the National Unity Party - the Party of Magnus Ward - is who rebuilt this economy while those opposite work to disassemble it.

Lets work together as we have for 12 years and continue this legacy of sensible economic management, building a sensible society, and developing sensible foreign relations.

Vote National Unity Party. Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 05/05/2024 23:32

Good Morning Everyone! It is time for the 77th annual Hunger Games! looks down at paper, flipping it over a couple times before tossing it

My fault, wrong speech. It is time for the no-confidence vote on the current government. Now while I do agree that the NUP did some good things during their time as government. Like, their Tax Reform that totally gave corporate tax cuts. However the rest is confusing to me. The last Police reform I know of is a DPPK bill that was mine. They talk about accomplishments with the Economy while barely even mentioning the citizens that worked tirelessly to make it happen. The National Unity Party has failed in their leadership during this civil war. The former Chancellor and party leader of their party decided to resign. If that doesn’t show me poor leadership, then I don’t know what does. Can we trust that Chancellor Hurst and the remaining Maltravers’ cabinet is going to succeed?

Falkenridge had a stalemate in his last battle, that was months ago. Haven’t heard anything since.

We are facing a challenging time. It is time for this war to end. It should have ended months ago, years ago, but the NUP decided to work against the progress.

Like I said in my last press conference, it’s time for a new era in Kodiak, let’s make it happen. EasyPoll APP

— 05/05/2024 23:35

Question Who does the Assembly support as Chancellor of Kodiak?

Choices 🇦 Jack Williams 🇧 Felix Hurst 🇨 Abstain

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Allowed roles: @Assembly Member Poll ID: 47bf40da Jack Williams (DPPK) OP

— 05/05/2024 23:35

@Assembly Member the time for the vote is here. Let’s begin The Public Service — 08/05/2024 23:02 @Assembly Member The vote shall end in 22 minutes. R. Henry Welch, III [NUP] — 08/05/2024 23:25 The Assembly chambre is heavy with anticipation as the final moments pass "...and at the conclusion of the third reading in the matter, a motion has been heard to call a vote. To select a Chancellor for the Republic of Kodiak, all for Williams shout Williams, all for Hurst, shout Hurst." muddled shouting fills the hall "Is there a motion for a division?" more shouting "A division is required. Ring the bell for two minutes." the sound of a digital sampling of what could be described as a bell or a buzz is heard echoing through the halls of the capital. A pre-recorded voice comes across the intercoms "All voting members are required for a division in the chambre. Please make your way to the chambre. The voting will be conducted at... ELEVEN... TWENTY... THREE... PEE EMM.... Assembly members are due in the Assembly chambre, thank you." the bells continue to ring. No new members approach - they're already present. The silence of the members is heavy. The Chancellor and his front bench stand up, aimlessly fidgeting at their own side of the chambre. The two minutes feel like an eternity The bells cease and there is a pregnant pause. Many members are hesitant even at the last moment. Then suddenly a flurry of movement. Shouting like a stock exchange erupts. The sound of chairs and desks and suits and pens fill the air as members rush to their final decision. Mr. Williams vacates his chair to participate in the vote. The Clerk of the Assembly takes position in the President's chair. The gavel hits the desk and everyone ceases moving. Two nervous assistants approach the senior clerk and hand him their ballot list. IN THE MATTER OF THE SELECTION OF A CHANCELLOR FOR THE KODIAK REPUBLIC ABSTENTIONS ZERO FOR MISTER WILLIAMS ONE HUNDRED AND ELEVEN



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