Talk:Proposed Laws

Tobias Virstürm (Vikstein) — 07/25/2022 @Assembly Member Drug Dependency Treatment and Rehabilitation Act A resolution to reduce Kodiak citizen drug dependence rates. Punishing people for taking illegal drugs only goes so far. What people need is treatment, and a long term plan to get people off their dependence on drugs. These schemes aim to fight the drug issue by reducing demand and assisting rehabilitation, instead of limiting supply and introducing penalties. While some may think of this as enabling, research has proven that this is a good way to fight drug abuse in the long run. The budget range is estimated to be in between 43-138 million. https://kodiak.fandom.com/wiki/Drug_Dependency_Treatment_and_Rehabilitation_Act_(642) This resolution is up for discussion. Voting will take place August 5th. (edited)

The Kodiak Republic Wiki Drug Dependency Treatment and Rehabilitation Act (642) A resolution to reduce Kodiak citizen drug dependence rates. Punishing people for taking illegal drugs only goes so far. What people need is treatment, and a long term plan to get people off their dependence on drugs. These schemes aim to fight the drug issue by reducing demand and assisting rehabilitation, instead of limiting supply and introdu...

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ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 The SIP massively opposes drugs so this is a good idea

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 I cant say i dont agree with this idea since its very useful in the long run [4:54 PM] And its surely better than forcing citizens to stop using

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Agreed

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 But i have a question [4:55 PM] If this law passes, i suppose it also affect tobacco yes?

Zachary — 07/25/2022 Geissians don't mind recreative drugs. If this is meant to rehabilitate those on the bad ones, we will support. If it is a blanket statement, we oppose.

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 Budget for this resolution going up to 138 million florins

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 The tax reform bill is worthless then [4:56 PM] If we are to put tax on tobacco doing this, which obviously should be done, affects the tax reform

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 So the goal of this tax is to trash the local economy for the people working in tobacco cultivated areas ?

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Why alcohol? [4:57 PM] I think thats too far

Zachary — 07/25/2022 Based on grounds of the tax reform bill, Geiss fully opposes the act until better language is installed.

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Drugs are pretty much a non issue here mainly for cultural reasons as it affects someone's readiness to fight big time alcohol has become more of a problem though

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 I think we need a clearer picture

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 A capitalist bill aimed to make more profit by stealing money from the hands of local producers

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Healthcare policies? [4:59 PM] Whatcha do that for?

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Um

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Oh nvm [4:59 PM] Missread it [4:59 PM] But still

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 The budget is only estimated to be 138 million maximum, but with their 30% tax they'll get up to 1.27 billion. Outrageous

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Wow

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 It is indeed @Joshua Lopez - Slatium Healthcare policies?

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 All this drug situation falls under the ministry of health

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 I support the concept of the law [4:59 PM] But we need some kind of rework

Zachary — 07/25/2022 Geissian citizens: Keep the government away from our drugs

Tobias Virstürm (Vikstein) — 07/25/2022 Feel free to create a amendment!

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 @Tobias Virstürm (Vikstein) this is your idea yeah? [5:00 PM] Just asking @Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) A capitalist bill aimed to make more profit by stealing money from the hands of local producers

Oskar Luchens (NUP) — 07/25/2022 If I recall correctly, this was submitted by a member of the KWP

Tobias Virstürm (Vikstein) — 07/25/2022 This resolution is from some time ago so it definitely can use the improvements.

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Oh nvm Oskar Luchens (NUP) If I recall correctly, this was submitted by a member of the KWP

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 I still maintain what I said. This resolution is outrageous

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Who proposed this [5:01 PM] I would like to know a clearer picture of this

Zachary — 07/25/2022 Geissian leader, Paul Freud: Even if this becomes Kodiak law, we will let our citizens make their own choices

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 Taxing without any difference both the low income businesses and the multi national companies is not something I agree with. Economy shall thrive, not regress

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Good point (edited)

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 If there is a taxation, it needs to be lower on smaller and local businesses

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 If you tax smaller buisnesses they wont succed

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 To increase attractivity of our local products compared to products imported from other regions of the world

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Leading to worse economy and less jobs [5:03 PM] Nvm [5:03 PM] I missread it again [5:03 PM] My point still stands though

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 I want the tax to be lower for small businesses compared to multi national companies x)

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Agreed

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 Do... we even have a tobacco industry?

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 I think we do

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Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 Frankly, tobacco as a industry is one that's currently on the decline globally, and destroys soil nutrients in very little time [5:07 PM] I would not be opposed for jumping the curve and beginning to push our economy away from a dying industry to one more economically and ecologically friendly (edited)

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Thats true

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 A dying industry that gives a couple thousand of people money to live.

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Very true [5:09 PM] @Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) they can work elsewhere like in the fields of Sparta

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 We can try and reduce the use of tobacco, but do it gradually. So that we have time to create more job in different areas @Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) A dying industry that gives a couple thousand of people money to live.

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 We can easily supplement them with alternative crops

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 30% would instantly kill the industry

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 A dying industry that kills a couple of thousand people every week (edited)

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Agreed

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 There's several crops that grow in the exact same conditions and are far more ecological then tobacco

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Yep Joshua Lopez - Slatium A dying industry that kills a couple of thousand people every week (edited)

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 The industry does not, the use of tobacco does

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Pulling away from the industry will stop the use of tobacco

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 And why does the industry grow tobacco? [5:10 PM] So it can be used

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 Pawpaw trees and wild apricot both grow in the exact same climate, and do not destroy the soil like tobacco [5:11 PM] Just to name 2 options

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 When theres probably 10 more

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 Not to mention they also have multiple other uses [5:11 PM] mainly in medicine

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 By the way. shisha (from Arabic states) is dependent of tobacco, killing the industry would also kill a religious tradition

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Okay, and?

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 They can always grow it themselves on a small scale or replace with other things

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ They can always grow it themselves on a small scale or replace with other things

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 "they can always go fuck themselves" (edited)

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Spartan religious traditions have had to adapt to be legal like removing human sacrifice (edited)

[5:13 PM] @Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) lol your happy today

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Let the shisha grow it themselves if they really need it [5:14 PM] Dont let them make an industry of it

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 Other crops that can be alternatives to tobacco include: French beans, potato, felon, sweet gourd, chill, eggplant, groundnut or tomato, wheat, garlic, masur, mustard and leafy amaranths, leaves of radish, coriander, okra, bitter gourd, yard long bean, spinach and cabbage

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 @Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP any proof that tobacco destroys the land ?

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 @Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) he's lots

Tobias Virstürm (Vikstein) — 07/25/2022 @Assembly Member The resolution has been corrected to reflect the final draft of what the proposed assembly member wished to show to the assembly. Please take the time to review the adjustments.

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 @Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) well it can destroy your brain clearly so maybe that's proof?

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 (taxation has been removed from the bill but everything stays the same)

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 Please standby [5:15 PM] I will break out the scientific surveys [5:15 PM] https://cdn.who.int/media/docs/default-source/searo/tobacco/alternatives-to-tobacco-growing-in-south-east-asia.pdf?sfvrsn=a85c4f58_5#:~:text=Alternative%20crops%20to%20tobacco%20include,%2C%20beet%2C%20and%20hybrid%20cabbage. [5:15 PM] In the meantime [5:15 PM] Here's a document from the World Health Organization

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 He got proofed @ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ @Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) well it can destroy your brain clearly so maybe that's proof?

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 Hmm hmm, disagreed.

[5:16 PM] The industry of tobacco does not

[5:16 PM] The use of it does

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Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 You keep trying to seperate the industry from the effects of it's products

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 For proof tobacco is bad this is what it did to my brain (edited) [5:17 PM]

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 Nicotine is the reason why we get addicted, tobacco itself is not addicting

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Coughs in tobacco nicotine

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Excuse you? [5:17 PM] Nicotine gets us addicted [5:17 PM] Tobacco kills us [5:18 PM] And other chemicals

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Md-Mamun-11/publication/339599760_Effects_of_Consecutive_Two_Years_Tobacco_Cultivation_on_Soil_Fertility_status_at_Bheramara_Upazilla_in_Kushtia_District/links/5b2f0381a6fdcc8506c777d7/Effects-of-Consecutive-Two-Years-Tobacco-Cultivation-on-Soil-Fertility-status-at-Bheramara-Upazilla-in-Kushtia-District.pdf

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Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 Tobacco would not be a problem if nicotine wasn't incorporated in cigarettes

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 Heres a research paper detailing the exact destruction of soil nutrition and fertility, it takes 2 years of tobacco to destroy it without outside interference (edited)

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 It would, what?

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Not then it wouldn't addict people it would just kill them You are saying.like tobacco doesnt do anything to the body

[5:19 PM] While nicotine does everything?

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 I am not.

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 More like the other way round nicotine is fine tobacco bad

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Nicotine is not fine

[5:19 PM] At all

[5:19 PM] But saying it that if removed will improve ciggaretes

[5:19 PM] Is just plain stupid

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 Nicotine : gets people addicted If we remove it from cigarettes people won't get addicted to cigarettes and won't need to consume every single day

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 Ahem Gentlemen, I would like to request that you give Mister Bernier time to read the scientific documents given to him

[5:20 PM] So he can understand the depth of the issue and how terrible Tobacco is enviromentally (edited)

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 It would be wise

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 I'll take the time to read them.

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Or won't consume it at all

[5:21 PM] That will also kill your industry

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ Or won't consume it at all

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 Smoking stays a pleasure that a lot of people enjoy. Even if they are not addicted. ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Not rlly plus with addiction gone that would make the industry practically non existent

Zachary — 07/25/2022 Cigars

[5:23 PM] Some people like having those

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 True but that still would make it a horrifically tiny industry maybe even just a factory with 100 workers

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Removing chemicals-industry destroyed Banning ciggaretes-industry destroyed

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 Healthier alternatives can be found to smoking tobacco

[5:25 PM] And those who truly wish to continue up their practices

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 The proposed law is to try and make people not smoke

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 Can choose to pay the price

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Without banning ciggaretes

[5:25 PM] Or chemicals in it

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 I would prefer a full ban personally but I will take a compromise.

Zachary — 07/25/2022 Geiss will probably start making cigars in resistance

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Agreed

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 The alternatives should be shown only if the patient really cant stop

[5:26 PM] And needs a healthier alternative

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Even if you removed every chemical and used matches instead of lighters you'd still burn your lungs rlly

@ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ Not rlly plus with addiction gone that would make the industry practically non existent

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 Isn't this what you guys want ?

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 I would prefer a simple age ban, if you're currently under the age of X, you are entirely prohibited from being sold tobacco.

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 Smaller tobacco industry

Zachary — 07/25/2022 I WANT BIG

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Tiny tiny industry can't even rlly call it an industry

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 Here for the people that didn't see general

Micheal Valois (Tanith) - NUP — 07/25/2022 Ah, thank you

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 To those wanting to stop but cant should get treatment

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Think about it remove the appeal of smoking demand plummets and the same thing happens as would happen if we banned and they all end up working in the fields of Sparta's

Zachary — 07/25/2022 Geiss loves supply and demand. We will stick with it.

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 If we outright ban tobacco right now the economy will suffer

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ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Maybe 1 factory remains to roll out afew thousand a day

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 We want to stop people slowly

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 @Joshua Lopez - Slatium agreed stable decline in the industry and gradual replacing of it

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 It is up to us to educate the people, not force them to stop buying products

Zachary — 07/25/2022 Geiss wants to keep it going. We want economic power.

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 Anyway the whole point of my bill is to encourage people to get treatment and educate them about treatment, not exactly outright ban cigarettes and stuff yet

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Better slow and stable than immedate decline

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 @Joshua Lopez - Slatium stable decline imho (edited)

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Imop?

[5:29 PM] Imho?

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 In my honest opinion

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 Also I see that we have a new party

@Joshua Lopez - Slatium Better slow and stable than immedate decline

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 Let's educate the people then :)

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Ah okay

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 Cat didn't tell me about that

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Listen now @Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) Let's educate the people then :)

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 ... literal whole point of my bill?

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 We want education to stop future gens smoking

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 How about a war on people smoking fags?

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 Look can we get away from banning cigarettes to my actual bill

Zachary — 07/25/2022 This just in: People flock to Geiss to get their cig fix

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 We want treatements to 18+ people

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 If you want to ban them debate them elsewhere @horsiecattie89 ... literal whole point of my bill?

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 The taxation implied with the creation of your bill is a horrible idea.

@Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) The taxation implied with the creation of your bill is a horrible idea.

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 I removed them my bro

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 I think this deal is great [5:31 PM] Ngl

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 Cut out everything that has to do with taxes [5:31 PM] It's in the KWP chat my bro

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Use education for the future, use treatements for the current [5:31 PM] Easy (edited) [5:32 PM] Thats surely better than banning cigs (edited)

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 I will vote yes for this act, even though I will refuse to vote yes for the taxation act and encourage people of TKR to do the same. @Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) I will vote yes for this act, even though I will refuse to vote yes for the taxation act and encourage people of TKR to do the same.

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 There. [5:32 PM] Is. [5:32 PM] No. [5:32 PM] Taxation. [5:32 PM] Act.

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 No its for a different

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022

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Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Act

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 This. One.

Zachary — 07/25/2022 I am against

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Same [5:32 PM] Against the tax one [5:32 PM] Im all for this one @Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) This. One.

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 Why are you talking about another bill here? (edited)

Zachary — 07/25/2022 Keep the tax, keep the cigs

L'Soliy — 07/25/2022 whats this bil supposed to be for this one?

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 Dear God I'm just going to adios until this chat goes back to talking about my bill

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[5:33 PM] It's what this chat is for

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 Educating people to stop smoking and providing treatment (edited)

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 To help people with smoking and people with drug habits

L'Soliy — 07/25/2022 oh okay

Tobias Virstürm (Vikstein) — 07/25/2022 Please keep all discussion on topic to the resolution presented.

L'Soliy — 07/25/2022 I'll support this to stop dependence pf kodiakers from drugs.

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ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Perhaps we should go back to the original point of departure the bill @ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ Perhaps we should go back to the original point of departure the bill

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 I'm almost tempted to join SIP but my heart still belongs to KWP lol

Zachary — 07/25/2022 Well, you guys debate it. I know my decision. @horsiecattie89 I'm almost tempted to join SIP but my heart still belongs to KWP lol

L'Soliy — 07/25/2022 The comrades are watching you (edited)

Zachary — 07/25/2022 Pfft, SIP? Please. @Zachary Pfft, SIP? Please.

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 Let's not bully other parties tysm

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 @horsiecattie89 SIP good everything else bad

L'Soliy — 07/25/2022 anyway thaf should be turned to generall @ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ @horsiecattie89 SIP good everything else bad

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 Ok now I hate you @L'Soliy anyway thaf should be turned to generall

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 Yup

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Lmao

L'Soliy — 07/25/2022 unless you guys want to continue discussing about the bill

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 💬｜off-topic guys since Joshua is in general

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Should I mention Sparta was the first to introduce communism? @ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ Should I mention Sparta was the first to introduce communism?

L'Soliy — 07/25/2022 le what @ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ Should I mention Sparta was the first to introduce communism?

Zachary — 07/25/2022 HAHAHHAHAHAH

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Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 What?

L'Soliy — 07/25/2022 Kwp and Kep

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 There was no such thing @ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ Should I mention Sparta was the first to introduce communism?

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 No nation in real life has ever achieved communism.

Joshua Lopez - Slatium — 07/25/2022 Before my man karl

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 @Joshua Lopez - Slatium communism itself no @Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) No nation in real life has ever achieved communism.

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Sparta came close they even banned currency at one point check it out

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 Guys

L'Soliy — 07/25/2022 KWP and KEP are socialists at my knowledge

horsiecattie89 — 07/25/2022 Shoo

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Distribution of wealth was used and having fortunes was discouraged as well they also distributed the land

L'Soliy — 07/25/2022 time to kick myself down the door @L'Soliy KWP and KEP are socialists at my knowledge

Gustave Bernier - KWP (old acc) — 07/25/2022 KWP tends to be a bit more than socialist these days

Tobias Virstürm (Vikstein) — 07/25/2022 All Kodiak discussion may be put in 🔆｜lobby

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 We are also Socialist but with other thingd also @Tobias Virstürm (Vikstein) All Kodiak discussion may be put in 🔆｜lobby

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Okay

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Oskar Luchens (NUP) — 07/25/2022 And back to the bill at hand

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Drewwww — 07/25/2022 Shouldn't this contradict to the tax reform? since the stop of drugs pwould make the tax reform useless?

ᛅᛁᚢᚬᛦ — 07/25/2022 Idk @Drewwww Shouldn't this contradict to the tax reform? since the stop of drugs pwould make the tax reform useless?

Klaus Mikaelson — 07/25/2022 could the author of the bill speak towards this question?

John Edwards [KWP] — 07/25/2022 I am in support of this. The proposal seeks to improve health outcomes with a multi stage approach. Funding request is reasonable. @Drewwww Shouldn't this contradict to the tax reform? since the stop of drugs pwould make the tax reform useless?

John Edwards [KWP] — 07/25/2022 Not in any way. Please reread the tax reform bill and we can debate it there. July 26, 2022 @Klaus Mikaelson could the author of the bill speak towards this question?

horsiecattie89 — 07/26/2022 This was written and published way before the tax reform bill was even started so (edited) [2:10 AM] (Jocelyn here btw [2:12 AM] Also there is nothing in my bill that suggests banning drugs [2:13 AM] This bill's focus is getting treatment to addicts

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[2:13 AM] Hence the name of the bill @horsiecattie89 This was written and published way before the tax reform bill was even started so (edited)

Klaus Mikaelson — 07/26/2022 Would it then stand to reason that it may need to be updated in spots to do take passed legislation into account?

Hester Sirocco-Loren (Juliette) — 07/26/2022 Which parts in particular? Genuinely interested in hearing people out as my perspective is just one here, so not aimed at any one person though I am replying directly! I for the moment disagree with it contradicting the tax reform. For starters, the idea that any one strategy will eliminate drug dependency across the country seems high optimistic. I see this as a targeted act towards rehabilitation of people that have fallen into the dependency loop, and helping them escape it. It's fairly specific, and if anything I do not see a combined effort towards less drug use being a net negative. Is it not a good thing that tax revenue decreases a bit due to better health outcomes? The tax reform doesn't just deal with drug use after all. There could also be an argument for a net positive due to better health outcomes decreasing the burden on the healthcare system overall, which can benefit where healthcare funding is invested in the future towards other critical areas.

horsiecattie89 — 07/26/2022 Honestly my idea was to educate addicts that rehabilitation doesn't mean putting them in a straitjacket and letting them sweat their addiction out or whatever people imagine rehabilitation is, and to provide people who are too embarrassed to seek out treatment with a way to do so without risking having their addiction revealed [9:37 AM] Idk why and how did the discussion become about banning all drugs outright (edited) [9:38 AM] Like sure now they're illegal, congrats, addicts gonna die

Hester Sirocco-Loren (Juliette) — 07/26/2022 ^ For starters the act doesn't ban drugs. I also see a positive benefit to encouraging rehabilitation.

horsiecattie89 — 07/26/2022 And how does taxes concern rehabilitation anyway [9:41 AM] Or banning drugs

Oskar Luchens (NUP) — 07/26/2022 I am in support of this bill as it currently stands. I would suggest that at a future date we should draft legislation to crate a Drug Inspection Agency for these experimental items. At this time, the lack of quality control within the republic is my largest concern for the people.

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Oskar Luchens (NUP) — 08/05/2022 Almost time to vote on this one.

Hester Sirocco-Loren (Juliette) — 08/05/2022 I second a motion to vote, unless that wasn't a motion, then I motion that we go to a vote!

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Oskar Luchens (NUP) — 08/05/2022 Both items are technically up for vote on the 5th. Which it is in our timezone lol. Mostly just a bump here to remind folks (edited)

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Tobias Virstürm (Vikstein) — 08/06/2022 @Assembly Member the proposed resolution is up for a vote. August 9, 2022

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Tobias Virstürm (Vikstein) — Today at 1:17 PM @Assembly Member the resolution has passed