Talk:Electoral Protection Act (650)
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Tabled by John Edwards, MGA, KWP, Chancellor, as a Government sponsored bill. Electoral Protection Act, 650 A resolution to ensure that the citizens right to vote is protected. https://kodiak.wiki/wiki/Electoral_Protection_Act_(650) Written and Proposed by John Edwards, MGA, KWP, Chancellor. Voting is presently set for 12 Feb 2023 Klaus Mikaelson OP
— 01/29/2023 8:50 PM
@Assembly Member debate is opened @Chancellor please let me know if there are any clerical errors or additions that need to be made Patrick Barber
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John Edwards [KWP] — 01/29/2023 8:50 PM Will do. Thanks for the quick response. Mivod Hlaja [KWP] — 01/29/2023 8:51 PM Can you elabourate on 5.1? What makes a citizen eligible to vote? Klaus Mikaelson OP
— 01/29/2023 8:51 PM
no other govt. bills in line, so it goes to the front of the queue. 😛 John Edwards [KWP] — 01/29/2023 8:52 PM Good point. 18+. I'll make the adjustment. Jonn Stevens (DPPK) — 01/29/2023 8:55 PM Looks good with the current threat to the election we have gotten from McNeal and others in my mind this bill is a must have John Edwards [KWP] — 01/29/2023 8:55 PM Updated: 5.2 - An eligible voter is considered to be any Kodiak citizen over the age of 18. Mivod Hlaja [KWP] — 01/29/2023 8:56 PM Somewhat off topic, but are we sure we want Kodiak to go with a single-vote system instead of approval or instant runoff? John Edwards [KWP] — 01/29/2023 9:00 PM I left that out specifically as I wanted to get this out as soon as possible but also because the nature of our role in this simulation is essentially a representative voting on behalf of an electorate. However that may not represent the "actual process" but simply be the way we have to operate given that "citizens" are essentially fictional (albeit with simulated reactions to bills). Patrick Barber — 01/29/2023 9:02 PM For what its worth, it was a goal of mine to write a more encompassing election law after my position as president was complete I do believe that in the interest of the emergency action - I think it makes sense (OOC) not to expressly change or codify the conventions of voting since this is meant to be a slight change in those conventions to minimise damage from the Militias double so that it needs to be done and passaed before monday next or it won't be done in time to help John Edwards [KWP] — 01/29/2023 9:03 PM I would have liked to be more comprehensive (and sooner) but life... Mivod Hlaja [KWP] — 01/29/2023 9:06 PM I think that this bill either needs a compulsory voting clause or a way to check for illegitimate mail-in votes. John Edwards [KWP] — 01/29/2023 9:11 PM Such as? I'm not sure whether voting being compulsory or otherwise should be included in this bill so I specifically left it open to either so it could be addressed in a separate bill if needs be without affecting the wording.
The idea would be that the mail in envelope would contain the voters details which would be marked off the Roll upon receipt of the envelope by the Electoral Commission. The Roll is then checked to ensure no double votes or fictional votes.
Do I need to clarify it more in the bill? Mivod Hlaja [KWP] — 01/29/2023 9:13 PM Nevermind Misread the bill, sorry Belial Pandor — 01/29/2023 9:40 PM I support this bill wholeheartedly I don’t see anything wrong with it. I would remove the word “considerer” from the age portion but other than that very good. John Edwards [KWP] — 01/29/2023 9:51 PM Updated: 5.2 - An eligible voter is classified as any Kodiak citizen over the age of 18. Immanuel von Zeppelin — 01/30/2023 7:08 AM Although it seems to me that this system will be full of paperwork, but since I have no acceptable alternatives, I approve the bill. John Edwards [KWP] — 01/30/2023 7:09 AM All electoral systems are full of paperwork. I tried to make it as least faffery as possible. Klaus Mikaelson OP
— 01/30/2023 11:54 AM
1.2, can we change "Several" to "multiple"? 2.2- is this a decision that is made by the federal govt or by more local governments? may need some clarification there. 3.2- maybe add that potential personal who decline/refuse to participate in said background checks will be immediately disqualified from employment. 4.1- provided by whom?
Is this the time to have a conversation about lowering the voting age? Mivod Hlaja [KWP] — 01/30/2023 12:26 PM I think that the voting age should stay at 18 for now. Several other laws reference 18 and under as "children" or "dependants". Changing the voting age would probably require the changing of those bills. Klaus Mikaelson OP
— 01/30/2023 12:40 PM
that's true it is a discussion that I would like to have, but it can wait until next term Patrick Barber — 01/30/2023 11:05 PM voting on this act must begin before Midnight 3 Feb GMT <1675378800> for it to take effect prior to the election Countdown: 4 days ago John Edwards [KWP] — 01/30/2023 11:32 PM Updates made: 1.2 - The Kodiak Electoral Commission (KEC) is authorised to employ personnel and premises in multiple locations... 2.2 - If deemed necessary, Federal Government may decide... 3.2 - Potential personnel who fail this check or decline/refuse to participate in the background check will not be employed. 4.1 - Security in the form of personnel and equipment is to be provided by the Kodiak National Police to polling locations... I debated whether KNP or the Electoral Commission should provide security. John Edwards [KWP] — 01/31/2023 12:36 AM Ideally, the Commission should have it's own security, independently. However then you have to authorise that security detail with certain powers to protect polling locations and citizens in those locations. A function that is already provided by the KNP (who also already have the equipment). Mivod Hlaja [KWP] — 01/31/2023 7:03 AM Add a clause that says only members of the KNP/NKP who have gone through the same background checks as the KEC may provide security? Patrick Barber — 01/31/2023 7:08 AM just to be a bit of a stickler - I believe its the National Kodiak Police - NKP John Edwards [KWP] — 01/31/2023 11:29 AM Done 4.1 - Security in the form of personnel and equipment is to be provided by the National Kodiak Police to polling locations... 4.2 - NKP officers providing protection to polling locations must undergo background checks to be eligible for deployment as electoral security. Patrick Barber — 02/01/2023 5:25 AM I believe all the initial concerns have been addressed. Are there any more members who wish to comment? Luik Oule - Kallamaya [KWP] — 02/01/2023 7:54 AM Only that this is a great and needed act. Tom Westbrook — 02/01/2023 3:03 PM I would like to motion for this to be brought to vote as it is measure we need to implement prior to the upcoming elections John Edwards [KWP] — 02/01/2023 5:58 PM Likewise Patrick Barber — 02/01/2023 5:59 PM Given I see no opposition and the Chancellor has addressed every issue brought forward - I will begin the vote presently EasyPoll BOT
— 02/01/2023 6:00 PM
Question Do you approve of the Electoral Protection Act, 650?
Choices 🇦 Aye 🇧 Nay 🇨 Abstain
Final Result 🇦 ▓▓▓▓▓▓▓▓░░ [13 • 81%] 🇧 ▓░░░░░░░░░ [2 • 13%] 🇨 ▓░░░░░░░░░ [1 • 6%] 16 users voted
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Allowed roles: @Assembly Member Poll ID: 5c7f44d2 Patrick Barber — 02/01/2023 6:00 PM @Assembly Member The poll has been called. Debate is suspended. The vote shall remain active for 72 hours. The proposal is linked in the pinned post. Please vote within that time. Thank you Klaus Mikaelson OP
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With 13 votes in favor, 2 against and 1 abstention, this act is declared passed.